BB: These and other compositions can probably be found on Spotify, as well as numerous Gregorian recordings? Two of your groups’ albums have been awarded at the Fryderyk Awards.
MS: Yes, on Spotify you can find some of my arrangements, especially Gregorian ones. To be more precise, the album Verbum Incarnatum, which I recorded with Mulierum Schola Gregoriana Clamaverunt Iusti in collaboration with the most outstanding Polish saxophonist Professor Paweł Gusnar, was awarded a Fryderyk in 2016 in the early music category. On this album, alongside Gregorian and Ambrosian chant, one can hear quasi-modal improvisations on soprano saxophone (Paweł Gusnar) and commentaries referring to the speeches of Pope St John Paul II from his pilgrimages to Poland (Emilia Dudkiewicz).
The second album – Historia de sancto Paulo primo heremita patre nostro, which is part of a larger project (the Musica Claromontana series) including a recording of all the monophonic compositions found in the Archives of the Pauline Monastery at Jasna Góra – was recorded with my male ensemble Schola Gregoriana Cardinalis Stephani Wyszyński. It is a recording of the whole Liturgy of the Hours for the Feast of Saint Paul the First Hermit, Patron Saint of the Pauline Order. This two-disc album, of which I am very proud, has also been nominated for a Fryderyk in 2019 in the early music category.
BB: In addition to your creative activities, you lecture at the Fryderyk Chopin University of Music in Warsaw (you are dean of the Department of Church Music) and at numerous courses in Poland and abroad. Would you be so kind as to give us a brief lecture on the history of Gregorian chant?
MS: The origin of Gregorian chant is linked to the history of when in the 8th century Pope Stephen II asked for political and military help from Pepin the Short, king of the Franks, and his sons, among whom was the future ruler of Europe – Charlemagne. The papal territories were constantly being invaded by the Lombards, who colonised the papal lands and plundered the local treasuries. Their leader Astolfo was particularly good at this. The Pope as monarch of the State of St Peter felt very threatened. As a result, he moved to the Abbey of Saint-Denis in Paris, where he felt safe under the wing of the Carolingians. And because he came with his entire court, he also brought his liturgy – books, cantors, his customs – and this is where the problems began. At the time, every region of Europe had its own liturgical and – inextricably linked to this – musical culture. In Milan, in the diocese of Lugano in Northern Italy and in what is now Italian-speaking Switzerland, Ambrosian chant was practised; on the Iberian Peninsula, Spanish chant, known as Visigothic or Mozarabic (meaning ‘not Arabic’), along the Pyrenees – Gallican chant, in the Patriarchate of Aquileia – Aquileian chant, in the diocese of Benevento – Beneventine chant, in the papacy and in all territories dependent on it – Roman chant.